words do not contain meaning, they trigger experiences within you... yours, not the authors.
any book is a mirror to your own soul, no monkey reading the bible will find a god staring back
the dreamer dreaming
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Why is truth is so hard to find in Bible
by The Dragon ini have been studing it for years looking for answers....yet for every answer i find there is a counter to it.
the words themselves are twisted by leaders/teachers to fit their personal opinions and adgendas, as well as twisted by trying to rely on our own reasoning to understand them.. a good example would be the way our current system of laws work.. if the supreme court writes a law into the book..say for example.."evil" is anyone who does this....... it is then turned over to a bunch of undereducated enforcers to interpert and judge others they feel are "evil".
they are allowed to accuse and shoot first asking questions later.
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Why did you choose your USER NAME?
by In Between ini think some people actually use part of their real name.
i chose mine because i really feel 'in between', in that space where your not a jw anymore but really haven't figured out where you are in life and what path you want to take.
just thought it would be an interesting topic.
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the dreamer dreaming
I chose my name because it sums up where my search for truth lead me.... to realizing I can never know much with absolute certainty- if anything at all [still not sure about that one as I do know for sure that there must be at least one absolute]. and that honesty was the cure for religion.
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has humanity the intelligence to transcend love?
by the dreamer dreaming ini suspect it is fairly rare for two people to fall "in love" with each other at the same time... it seems to me
that many males will fall in love with just about any female that vaguely says anything approaching yes to their advances
and that they are not nearly as descriminating as females as to who they will have sex with... i could be wrong of course ...
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the dreamer dreaming
Hmmm... can you tell us what you wrote in the body of the post has to do with transcending love? And what do you mean by that anyway? Do you differentiate at all between the sort of basic chemical love and any other sort of love there may be?
by LOVE, I mean the feeling people talk about... not Agape or Philo sort of love as the greeks have differentiated... English uses love in so many ways, that it is often difficult to tell what one means by it, I apologize for the confusion....
I am referring specifically to what happens to some people who are flooded with endorphins and get an opiate high from another person... which clouds their more rational judgements...and often, on an intellectual level they realize the person they are addicted to is more of an addiction than any rational choice... the just dont seem to realize it is just like any other substance addiction because it is internal.
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I Need Help!
by Morocco inhi, i'm new to this forum and i was hoping someone could help me with some reasoning here.
i notice in the watchtowers they mention that on occasion people fall into the "trap" of "independent thinking" and this is often associated with pride and a misunderstanding of god.
also just as frequently it mentions that god progressively reveals truths to his followers.
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the dreamer dreaming
independant thinking.... as opposed to what? dependant thinking? is that really thinking at all? or just agreeing blindly?
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has humanity the intelligence to transcend love?
by the dreamer dreaming ini suspect it is fairly rare for two people to fall "in love" with each other at the same time... it seems to me
that many males will fall in love with just about any female that vaguely says anything approaching yes to their advances
and that they are not nearly as descriminating as females as to who they will have sex with... i could be wrong of course ...
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the dreamer dreaming
I suspect it is fairly rare for two people to fall "in love" with each other at the same time... it seems to methat many males will fall in love with just about any female that vaguely says anything approaching yes to their advances
and that they are not nearly as descriminating as females as to who they will have sex with... I could be wrong of course ...
however, it seems to me that many males take advantage of women when they are in the throes of Endorphin/seritonin and who knows what
other chemical mix, is infesting their brain, which it seems it due largely to genetic issues that produce healthy children rather than healthy living conditions which often translates to the ever heard whine--- I know he is a jerk, but "I LOVE HIM."...
Why do we outlaw prostitution which is a rational deal for sex/money but allow people to marry legally when one or both of them are mentally impaired by being under the influence of very powerful biological drugs? no business contract is legal if one or both parties are impaired.
it seems that in some cases the endorphin [& others] effects can last as long as four years... after which time many a stray eye leads to many a stray body. btw, this is not to leave out the many females who take advantage of rich men in the clutches of hormones either
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the all knowing god?
by the dreamer dreaming indont know if this has been discussed or not...but.... it always bothered me when people claimed that god is all knowing... what exactly does that really mean or can mean?.
after all, according to all, there was some point when only god existed and so its pretty easy to be all knowing when there is nothing to know.. but why should we assume that a being who had no one teach him and nothing to learn from could be anything but insane?.
we should trust god, some have told me, because he made everything and therefore knows everything about what he made... sorry, but that does not follow at all.. my subconscious, apparently, seems to be able to manifest many dreams of very complex things which leaves me puzzled as to their workings not understanding them at all..... the bible shows god to be less than all knowing on many occasions, especially in genesis 18:20-21 where he is going to investigate a report that has come to him.... from where or who we are not told.... but it makes it clear he is desiring to find out if the report is accurate or not... .
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the dreamer dreaming
for living entities, no god[s] need apply...
the paradox of intellect is the realization that everything we do has the goal of peace of mind, and the awareness that permanent peace of mind is death.
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September AWAKE
by stillajwexelder ingot the september awake tonight.
marked on the front cover special issue in orange letters.
the title is " is there a creator".
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the dreamer dreaming
seems ID argument is we dont know how it came to be this way, therefore it must be God.... I dont find IGNORANCE to be EVIDENCE, perhaps thats enough for believers.... reminds me of Kiss Hank's Ass... well it says the moon is made of green cheese, and since you have never been to the moon....
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How open are you to new ideas.
by poodlehead inwhen i was a jw, i believed what i was told to believe.
after all it was the truth.
but now i no longer believe that what they were telling me was the truth.
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the dreamer dreaming
we defend ideas that have an emotional charge in our mind... now the cause of this charge is not always apparent and often misleading as we tend to trust our own mind above any other... but I find the following to keep me honest: perceptions [items of sensory/mental data] are FACTS, beliefs, speculations, theories, etc. about them are NOT, no matter how powerfully we FEEL they are.... this too will cure any religious infection
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Is becoming a witness the right thing for me
by marketman ini've been struggling for quite some time now about continuing my exploration of the jehovah witness faith.
i am a "cradle" catholic and have been very involved with the church.
i started to become disillusioned several months back with all of the tradition, habits, and teachings of the church--which i began to seriously doubt.
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the dreamer dreaming
if you need others to make decisions for you, then by all means join, they will do that without hesitation
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the all knowing god?
by the dreamer dreaming indont know if this has been discussed or not...but.... it always bothered me when people claimed that god is all knowing... what exactly does that really mean or can mean?.
after all, according to all, there was some point when only god existed and so its pretty easy to be all knowing when there is nothing to know.. but why should we assume that a being who had no one teach him and nothing to learn from could be anything but insane?.
we should trust god, some have told me, because he made everything and therefore knows everything about what he made... sorry, but that does not follow at all.. my subconscious, apparently, seems to be able to manifest many dreams of very complex things which leaves me puzzled as to their workings not understanding them at all..... the bible shows god to be less than all knowing on many occasions, especially in genesis 18:20-21 where he is going to investigate a report that has come to him.... from where or who we are not told.... but it makes it clear he is desiring to find out if the report is accurate or not... .
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the dreamer dreaming
As Jehovah's Witnesses, we were taught God CHOOSES to know some things, and also chooses to NOT know some things.
this actually seems worse as the JW god seems to be willfully ignorant and it begs the question...if the future is already there to be known and he just chose not to do so, who made it? for it to be there already means that either he made it unconsciously--- wow what a sickness we have in Jesus, sing it with me.
or that the true nature of reality exists independently of God, his is no creator at all, and he is just a fraud demanding worship under false premises.